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Tobin Signed for Saw 4 and Saw 5

Actor Tobin Bell confirmed at ShoWest last week that he will be reprising his role in the next two installments of the Saw franchise.

Spoilers follow below.

The actor told ComingSoon.net that is is unsure how his character will be used in the future installments (Jigsaw was assumed to have died in the last installment):

“It’s difficult for me to comment on something I haven’t read so I don’t know what they’re going to do or how they’re going to do it. Hollywood’s amazing; they come up with all kinds of ways to accomplish things. If I knew I’d tell you, but I don’t. In some ways, it’s a blessing.”

Though co-Producer Oren Koules said Bell has been slipped a couple of hints:

“Tobin knows some clues and what to tell the fans is that there are three or four scenes in ‘Saw III’ that seem very innocuous and benign but when you see ‘Saw IV’ and they flash back to those, they have a whole different meaning. We shot scenes for ‘Saw III’, knowing they’d be in ‘IV.’ We knew what we wanted to do for ‘IV’ so we actually shot scenes for ‘III’ but tried to make them very innocent scenes that didn’t really make sense, but when it comes back, it’s a huge part about ‘Saw IV.'”

Saw IV begins filming in April for a Halloween release date of October 26th.

Source: [ComingSoon.net]EXCL: Tobin Bell, Oren Koules Tease Saw IV

  • bonesaw

    yea alex…your ending isnt right….the end of the movie is the autopsy…not the detective walking out, so explain what happens to riggs and the fbi guy when they found jigsaws body?

  • bonesaw

    yea alex…your ending isnt right….the end of the movie is the autopsy…not the detective walking out, so explain what happens to riggs and the fbi guy when they found jigsaws body?

  • tj

    Maybe in saw 4 detective Hoffman was not actually in on it but was being tested throughout because when he listens to the tape you see the look on his face that maybe he was forced to carryout Riggs test .

  • tj

    Maybe in saw 4 detective Hoffman was not actually in on it but was being tested throughout because when he listens to the tape you see the look on his face that maybe he was forced to carryout Riggs test .

  • confused

    i don’t get saw 4 and i have watched all of them.

  • confused

    i don’t get saw 4 and i have watched all of them.

  • confused

    I am mad cause i have bought every one of the saw movies at $20 a piece. Add it up and that is $80, the first one was the best, the second fell off a little and the third was a little better than the second but was still a disappointment. Now i buy the forth one and it is totally wack, i have no idea what is going on. I will not buy the fifth, i will just look for it at a local yard sale and MAYBE buy it.

  • confused

    I am mad cause i have bought every one of the saw movies at $20 a piece. Add it up and that is $80, the first one was the best, the second fell off a little and the third was a little better than the second but was still a disappointment. Now i buy the forth one and it is totally wack, i have no idea what is going on. I will not buy the fifth, i will just look for it at a local yard sale and MAYBE buy it.

  • nac

    Didn’t anybody notice how bad they screwed up on saw4? when they found kerry they were talking about jigsaw being dead, but he isn’t dead yet. he doesn’t die until later on in the movie.

  • nac

    Didn’t anybody notice how bad they screwed up on saw4? when they found kerry they were talking about jigsaw being dead, but he isn’t dead yet. he doesn’t die until later on in the movie.

  • Chuck

    They cant kill jigsaw. I hope he is alive some how and well and up to his tricks. I hope they dont continue with another diciple…If jigsaw is really dead i think they will ruin a great thing..he is the whole movie..So i look forward to this fall…Let the games begin…

  • Chuck

    They cant kill jigsaw. I hope he is alive some how and well and up to his tricks. I hope they dont continue with another diciple…If jigsaw is really dead i think they will ruin a great thing..he is the whole movie..So i look forward to this fall…Let the games begin…

  • Drew S

    ***** Possible spoiler for 5 (If I am right)*******

    After watching 4 and the scenes when the ex-wife is being questioned by the FBI, does anyone else think that there is a BIG SHINY KEY hanging from her necklace. In all the scenes when she is wearing a blue shirt… in most scenes u can see it when the camera is facing directly at her, on side profiles they tuck it away into her shirt, and in one scene she is even playing with it (Not to mention this necklace is not on her neck in the flashbacks) just curious if anyone agrees but I see a Key with a heart shaped top on it that Jig probably gave her in the past being a secret in number 5 or later.

  • Drew S

    ***** Possible spoiler for 5 (If I am right)*******

    After watching 4 and the scenes when the ex-wife is being questioned by the FBI, does anyone else think that there is a BIG SHINY KEY hanging from her necklace. In all the scenes when she is wearing a blue shirt… in most scenes u can see it when the camera is facing directly at her, on side profiles they tuck it away into her shirt, and in one scene she is even playing with it (Not to mention this necklace is not on her neck in the flashbacks) just curious if anyone agrees but I see a Key with a heart shaped top on it that Jig probably gave her in the past being a secret in number 5 or later.

  • Paris Alexander

    im actually happy with the way they did saw 4 it was very good the plot was well thoughtout and the absence of jigsaw was nearly un-noticed…i do see how they are goin to make number 5 and it should be very well…for those who thought outerwise yes jigsaw is dead…verymuch so…but he has had test for ppl thoughtout way WAY in advance…and for those who thought amanda was the original jigsaw…i am much obliged to say U R WRONG…very wrong…saw 5 should be good cant wait to see it!!!

  • Paris Alexander

    im actually happy with the way they did saw 4 it was very good the plot was well thoughtout and the absence of jigsaw was nearly un-noticed…i do see how they are goin to make number 5 and it should be very well…for those who thought outerwise yes jigsaw is dead…verymuch so…but he has had test for ppl thoughtout way WAY in advance…and for those who thought amanda was the original jigsaw…i am much obliged to say U R WRONG…very wrong…saw 5 should be good cant wait to see it!!!

  • Paris Alexander

    oh and if u really want to understand what happened in saw 4 please contact me so i can tell you its actually quit simple and when u hear it u’ll probably be mad at urself that u didnt see it the first time…my email is chaos_mage_dragon@yahoo.com thank u i hope i will be able to help

  • Paris Alexander

    oh and if u really want to understand what happened in saw 4 please contact me so i can tell you its actually quit simple and when u hear it u’ll probably be mad at urself that u didnt see it the first time…my email is chaos_mage_dragon@yahoo.com thank u i hope i will be able to help

  • Ntusconni

    Ok. Can nobody grasp this, the autopsy scene at the start of Saw 4 is the same scene as at the end. What we see inbetween is Det. Hoffman basically having a flash back to show wot happened.

    This is my opinion on what has happened Hoffman leaves Rigg to die, though I my opinion i think Hoffman wanted Rigg to pass his test, when the find Kerry, Hoffman tells Rigg he knows not to go into an unsecured room, advice which would have saved both Rigg and matthews had he followed it.

    Hoffman has to lock Strahm in the room, so he can escape, my guess is that Strahm will try to rescue Jeff’s daughter. Hoffman will probably go get help and bring it to the meat plant and act like he worked it out the same way Strahm did.

    Saw 5 according to reports will be about Jeff’s daughter and Hoffman being tested.

  • Ntusconni

    Ok. Can nobody grasp this, the autopsy scene at the start of Saw 4 is the same scene as at the end. What we see inbetween is Det. Hoffman basically having a flash back to show wot happened.

    This is my opinion on what has happened Hoffman leaves Rigg to die, though I my opinion i think Hoffman wanted Rigg to pass his test, when the find Kerry, Hoffman tells Rigg he knows not to go into an unsecured room, advice which would have saved both Rigg and matthews had he followed it.

    Hoffman has to lock Strahm in the room, so he can escape, my guess is that Strahm will try to rescue Jeff’s daughter. Hoffman will probably go get help and bring it to the meat plant and act like he worked it out the same way Strahm did.

    Saw 5 according to reports will be about Jeff’s daughter and Hoffman being tested.

  • Gatesy

    And do not forget the Doctor is back

  • Gatesy

    And do not forget the Doctor is back

  • Lindsey

    I’ve read that Jigsaw is in the 5th and 6th and if all goes well they’re gonna film a 7th. In the 5th one we find out what happened to Jeff and his daughter.

    Amanda will not return, she is officially dead. And they may use that bathroom for another task.

    Oh happy days!! :D

  • Lindsey

    I’ve read that Jigsaw is in the 5th and 6th and if all goes well they’re gonna film a 7th. In the 5th one we find out what happened to Jeff and his daughter.

    Amanda will not return, she is officially dead. And they may use that bathroom for another task.

    Oh happy days!! :D

  • goldenboy

    can’t wait to see the part 5! jigsaw is still alive coz he is the MAN in this movie! may be in the last part he will show up :D

  • goldenboy

    can’t wait to see the part 5! jigsaw is still alive coz he is the MAN in this movie! may be in the last part he will show up :D

  • Chuck

    Like I said earlier. “NO JIGSAW NO SAW” He is the whole show.The traps are good but he is great, period.

  • Chuck

    Like I said earlier. “NO JIGSAW NO SAW” He is the whole show.The traps are good but he is great, period.

  • Gatesy

    Unfortunatley im pretty sure jigsaw is gone im mean come on those doctors opened him up, cut out his brain how could he not be dead at least there is someone to carry on jigsaws inventions and keep an eye out for one of the doctors from the scene from saw 4 when he getting cut open. one of them is gonna be a major part in the movie

  • Gatesy

    Unfortunatley im pretty sure jigsaw is gone im mean come on those doctors opened him up, cut out his brain how could he not be dead at least there is someone to carry on jigsaws inventions and keep an eye out for one of the doctors from the scene from saw 4 when he getting cut open. one of them is gonna be a major part in the movie

  • the series will carry on but nothing after 6 since riggs failed the final test in sw 4 it has to carry on and the games will begin wit the bent cop hoffman who setup the taps in saw3 my idea for theplot in saw 5 will be that the bent copper det hoffman will carry on with the series and jlll tuck is involved in some way or another i noticed the key around her kneck as welll in 4 that is where saw 5 will start i think.
    but daniel eric matthews son and also jeffs daughter also have to e mentioned somewhere along the line if you watch closely in 4 you will her at the end he say it has just begun he trapped the cop trying to stop riggs from killing matthews but he got stuck in the room with jeff lynn john amanda so something will happen from there as well.

  • the series will carry on but nothing after 6 since riggs failed the final test in sw 4 it has to carry on and the games will begin wit the bent cop hoffman who setup the taps in saw3 my idea for theplot in saw 5 will be that the bent copper det hoffman will carry on with the series and jlll tuck is involved in some way or another i noticed the key around her kneck as welll in 4 that is where saw 5 will start i think.
    but daniel eric matthews son and also jeffs daughter also have to e mentioned somewhere along the line if you watch closely in 4 you will her at the end he say it has just begun he trapped the cop trying to stop riggs from killing matthews but he got stuck in the room with jeff lynn john amanda so something will happen from there as well.

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  • david

    darren come back david haiki should by a proution dester i think wes craven should diretced saw 5and 6

  • david

    darren come back david haiki should by a proution dester i think wes craven should diretced saw 5and 6

  • cody

    hey u guys know wat i think i think dat the detective is acutaully jigs son the one he “lost” but think bout it is saw man its fuckn twisted so ya dats wat i think

  • cody

    hey u guys know wat i think i think dat the detective is acutaully jigs son the one he “lost” but think bout it is saw man its fuckn twisted so ya dats wat i think

  • jessica

    i think they should bring lawrence back in saw 5 and what happens is that he calls his wife at 4:00pm and tells her that he is working a late shift at the hospital but he is really going to jigsaw’s hide out to start setting traps for victims

  • i think they should bring lawrence back in saw 5 and what happens is that he calls his wife at 4:00pm and tells her that he is working a late shift at the hospital but he is really going to jigsaw’s hide out to start setting traps for victims

  • josue

    but in the end of saw 4 when the detective gets traped by officer hoff
    its shows the boddy of jigsaw so in the begin of the movie it must have been another body because in the end it shows jigsaws real body so i think there has to be another tape inside the real jigsaw that saids other stuff

  • josue

    but in the end of saw 4 when the detective gets traped by officer hoff
    its shows the boddy of jigsaw so in the begin of the movie it must have been another body because in the end it shows jigsaws real body so i think there has to be another tape inside the real jigsaw that saids other stuff

  • josue

    but in the end of saw 4 when the detective gets traped by officer hoff
    its shows the boddy of jigsaw so in the begin of the movie it must have been another body because in the end it shows jigsaws real body so i think there has to be another tape inside the real jigsaw that saids other stuff and i thnk the dr. gordon was saved by jigsaw and now dr.gordon is the one that sets up the trapts with detective hoff

  • but in the end of saw 4 when the detective gets traped by officer hoff
    its shows the boddy of jigsaw so in the begin of the movie it must have been another body because in the end it shows jigsaws real body so i think there has to be another tape inside the real jigsaw that saids other stuff and i thnk the dr. gordon was saved by jigsaw and now dr.gordon is the one that sets up the trapts with detective hoff

  • shayvvonne

    if you listen to the commentary on saw 4 they tell you that the beginning of saw 4 is actually the ending. what also do not undrstand is how that can be so if det. hoffman left the other det. alive in the room with dead jigsaw, dead amanda, dead doctor, and her dead husband without killing that detective so there must be some pieces of the ending of saw for that we wikll not be enlightened about until saw 5 comes out

  • shayvvonne

    if you listen to the commentary on saw 4 they tell you that the beginning of saw 4 is actually the ending. what also do not undrstand is how that can be so if det. hoffman left the other det. alive in the room with dead jigsaw, dead amanda, dead doctor, and her dead husband without killing that detective so there must be some pieces of the ending of saw for that we wikll not be enlightened about until saw 5 comes out

  • Ntusconni

    Shayvvonne-I think that Strahm plays the game that was intened for Geoff- to rescue his daughter. Now I am going to guess that Strahm dies, as when you listen to the tape that gets cut out of jigsaw he says that Hoffman thinks he is the last man standing, indicating that everyone else is dead.

  • Ntusconni

    Shayvvonne-I think that Strahm plays the game that was intened for Geoff- to rescue his daughter. Now I am going to guess that Strahm dies, as when you listen to the tape that gets cut out of jigsaw he says that Hoffman thinks he is the last man standing, indicating that everyone else is dead.

  • Blake

    The key thing that most people are confused about is the following: SAW III and SAW IV occured at the SAME TIME. As Jeff was being tested, so was Rigg. This was hinted several times through the film. Here are examples: an officer claims another doctor was kidnapped (this was Doctor Lynn from Saw III), Jigsaw states in a flashback to Cecil “Time is an Allusion”, When asked why Hoffman was married due to him carrying a stuffed animal he said it was a long story: it was the same stuffed animal Jeff’s daughter was holding in Saw III, the clock in Jigsaw’s work shop and his watch he threw away in the hospital hinted that Time was an allusion. The whole film was told out of sequence. At the beginning of the film we see an Autopsy of Jigsaw where they find a tape. This occured AFTER the events of Saw IV, so we saw the end of the film right at the beginning! On the tape he tells Hoffman that just because he is the last man standing doesn’t mean he won’t be tested. He claims that it isn’t over just because he is dead and that the Game’s have just begun — the games he is referring to is those set up for SAW V since this occured after SAW IV. Hoffman is also revealed as the new apprentice, and his motives are unknown and will be further explored in SAW V. The FBI officers Perez and Strahm (the new charecters) were correct in the sense that someone was helping Amanda and Jigsaw, that there was a new apprentice, which was Hoffman. He wrote the letter to Amanda that she read in Saw III. The contents of the letter are still unknown. He also told Rigg to go home since he had vacation time he never used. Why did he tell him to go home? Because he was the one who abducted him and placed him in the game. When it comes to Rigg’s test it was simple: he had to do NOTHING in order to save Detective Eric Mathews. Saving those who were out of his reach was effecting relationships with those around him, it became an obsession. This is why Jigsaw said “See what I See”, “Feel How I Feel” — in order to make him understand. Jigsaw’s perspective is that these people need to learn to save themselves. This was hinted several times through the film. Rigg’s wife/girlfriend told him he can’t save everybody. Also in a flashback with Jigsaw in his ex in the hospital, right after the baby in her stomach died and they were holding hands his ex said “I was just trying to help him” referring to Cecil (the one who robbed the hospital and killed the baby). Jigsaw, or John Kramer at the time states “You can’t help them, they have to learn to help themselves.” Also hinted was in the beginning when Rigg bust through doors that were not investigated properly for traps in order to see if Kerry was alive. Hoffman replied angrily “You never go through a door like that.” — which is exactly what he did in the room with Eric which lead to the death of Eric as well. He ran through the door not knowing what he was doing or what was behind it. With 2 seconds remaining on the clock, Eric was killed due to the fact time was still remaining. If no time had remained Eric would have been spared. The reason people disliked the film was due to a lack of understanding. Basically the twists were: Rigg had to do nothing to save Eric Mathews, Hoffman is the other apprentice and even with helping Jigsaw he will still be tested, and that Saw III and SAW IV were occuring at the same time since the Autopsy seen occured AFTER the events in SAW IV and SAW III, but was shown in the beginning. They wanted to show us that not everything in the SAW universe is told in a linear fashion, like SAW II did. We still haven’t learned our lesson!

  • Blake

    The key thing that most people are confused about is the following: SAW III and SAW IV occured at the SAME TIME. As Jeff was being tested, so was Rigg. This was hinted several times through the film. Here are examples: an officer claims another doctor was kidnapped (this was Doctor Lynn from Saw III), Jigsaw states in a flashback to Cecil “Time is an Allusion”, When asked why Hoffman was married due to him carrying a stuffed animal he said it was a long story: it was the same stuffed animal Jeff’s daughter was holding in Saw III, the clock in Jigsaw’s work shop and his watch he threw away in the hospital hinted that Time was an allusion. The whole film was told out of sequence. At the beginning of the film we see an Autopsy of Jigsaw where they find a tape. This occured AFTER the events of Saw IV, so we saw the end of the film right at the beginning! On the tape he tells Hoffman that just because he is the last man standing doesn’t mean he won’t be tested. He claims that it isn’t over just because he is dead and that the Game’s have just begun — the games he is referring to is those set up for SAW V since this occured after SAW IV. Hoffman is also revealed as the new apprentice, and his motives are unknown and will be further explored in SAW V. The FBI officers Perez and Strahm (the new charecters) were correct in the sense that someone was helping Amanda and Jigsaw, that there was a new apprentice, which was Hoffman. He wrote the letter to Amanda that she read in Saw III. The contents of the letter are still unknown. He also told Rigg to go home since he had vacation time he never used. Why did he tell him to go home? Because he was the one who abducted him and placed him in the game. When it comes to Rigg’s test it was simple: he had to do NOTHING in order to save Detective Eric Mathews. Saving those who were out of his reach was effecting relationships with those around him, it became an obsession. This is why Jigsaw said “See what I See”, “Feel How I Feel” — in order to make him understand. Jigsaw’s perspective is that these people need to learn to save themselves. This was hinted several times through the film. Rigg’s wife/girlfriend told him he can’t save everybody. Also in a flashback with Jigsaw in his ex in the hospital, right after the baby in her stomach died and they were holding hands his ex said “I was just trying to help him” referring to Cecil (the one who robbed the hospital and killed the baby). Jigsaw, or John Kramer at the time states “You can’t help them, they have to learn to help themselves.” Also hinted was in the beginning when Rigg bust through doors that were not investigated properly for traps in order to see if Kerry was alive. Hoffman replied angrily “You never go through a door like that.” — which is exactly what he did in the room with Eric which lead to the death of Eric as well. He ran through the door not knowing what he was doing or what was behind it. With 2 seconds remaining on the clock, Eric was killed due to the fact time was still remaining. If no time had remained Eric would have been spared. The reason people disliked the film was due to a lack of understanding. Basically the twists were: Rigg had to do nothing to save Eric Mathews, Hoffman is the other apprentice and even with helping Jigsaw he will still be tested, and that Saw III and SAW IV were occuring at the same time since the Autopsy seen occured AFTER the events in SAW IV and SAW III, but was shown in the beginning. They wanted to show us that not everything in the SAW universe is told in a linear fashion, like SAW II did. We still haven’t learned our lesson!